Hi, BBC3 and BBC4 only start to show programs at 19:00 UK time. My EPG for these programs comes via the internet. If I try to look at the EPG for those channels before 19:00, then they are not even shown in the list of programs I have EPG for on the OSD. I assume this is a desired behaviour of VDR. If so, any way to change it? I didn't find anyway in the Menus.
Cheers Brian
Le lundi 05 février 2007 à 17:49 +0100, Brian a écrit :
BBC3 and BBC4 only start to show programs at 19:00 UK time. My EPG for these programs comes via the internet. If I try to look at the EPG for those channels before 19:00, then they are not even shown in the list of programs I have EPG for on the OSD. I assume this is a desired behaviour of VDR. If so, any way to change it? I didn't find anyway in the Menus.
I use the following method:
- grab the EPG from the radio times site with xmltv - feed vdr with xmltv2vdr - vdr updates "on the fly" EPG data for changed times
And I use vdradmin rather than the OSD so you see the timelines of 3 and 4 starting at 7. Before then you do have ceebeebies and the other kids channel onn the same frequency
Cheers
Tony
Tony Grant wrote:
Le lundi 05 février 2007 à 17:49 +0100, Brian a écrit :
BBC3 and BBC4 only start to show programs at 19:00 UK time. My EPG for these programs comes via the internet. If I try to look at the EPG for those channels before 19:00, then they are not even shown in the list of programs I have EPG for on the OSD. I assume this is a desired behaviour of VDR. If so, any way to change it? I didn't find anyway in the Menus.
I use the following method:
- grab the EPG from the radio times site with xmltv
- feed vdr with xmltv2vdr
- vdr updates "on the fly" EPG data for changed times
And I use vdradmin rather than the OSD so you see the timelines of 3 and 4 starting at 7. Before then you do have ceebeebies and the other kids channel onn the same frequency
Cheers
Tony
Tony,
I get the EPG into VDR the same way. And I can see it via VDRAdmin. Its just I want to see it on the OSD before 7pm if at all possible.
Cheers Brian
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 20:12 +0100, Brian wrote:
Tony Grant wrote:
Le lundi 05 février 2007 à 17:49 +0100, Brian a écrit :
BBC3 and BBC4 only start to show programs at 19:00 UK time. My EPG for these programs comes via the internet. If I try to look at the EPG for those channels before 19:00, then they are not even shown in the list of programs I have EPG for on the OSD. I assume this is a desired behaviour of VDR. If so, any way to change it? I didn't find anyway in the Menus.
I use the following method:
- grab the EPG from the radio times site with xmltv
- feed vdr with xmltv2vdr
- vdr updates "on the fly" EPG data for changed times
And I use vdradmin rather than the OSD so you see the timelines of 3 and 4 starting at 7. Before then you do have ceebeebies and the other kids channel onn the same frequency
Cheers
Tony
Tony,
I get the EPG into VDR the same way. And I can see it via VDRAdmin. Its just I want to see it on the OSD before 7pm if at all possible.
Cheers Brian
I use the off-air EPG and the display of BBC3/4 is OK right now (18:30). When you look at the EPG in vdradmin do you see any programs covering the period when the channel is off-air?
I see token schedule entries covering the off-air period:
05:32 - 12:00 'This is BBC THREE' 12:00 - 18:58 'This is BBC THREE' 18:58 - 19:00 'Welcome to BBC THREE' ... on-air 19:00 - 20:00 'Dog Borstal' ...
Perhaps the issue with xmltv2vdr is that there are voids in the schedule data which (might) cause the channel not to be listed in the schedule guide.
Jon
Jon Burgess wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 20:12 +0100, Brian wrote:
Tony Grant wrote:
Le lundi 05 février 2007 à 17:49 +0100, Brian a écrit :
BBC3 and BBC4 only start to show programs at 19:00 UK time. My EPG for these programs comes via the internet. If I try to look at the EPG for those channels before 19:00, then they are not even shown in the list of programs I have EPG for on the OSD. I assume this is a desired behaviour of VDR. If so, any way to change it? I didn't find anyway in the Menus.
I use the following method:
- grab the EPG from the radio times site with xmltv
- feed vdr with xmltv2vdr
- vdr updates "on the fly" EPG data for changed times
And I use vdradmin rather than the OSD so you see the timelines of 3 and 4 starting at 7. Before then you do have ceebeebies and the other kids channel onn the same frequency
Cheers
Tony
Tony,
I get the EPG into VDR the same way. And I can see it via VDRAdmin. Its just I want to see it on the OSD before 7pm if at all possible.
Cheers Brian
I use the off-air EPG and the display of BBC3/4 is OK right now (18:30). When you look at the EPG in vdradmin do you see any programs covering the period when the channel is off-air?
I see token schedule entries covering the off-air period:
05:32 - 12:00 'This is BBC THREE' 12:00 - 18:58 'This is BBC THREE' 18:58 - 19:00 'Welcome to BBC THREE' ... on-air 19:00 - 20:00 'Dog Borstal' ...
Perhaps the issue with xmltv2vdr is that there are voids in the schedule data which (might) cause the channel not to be listed in the schedule guide.
Jon
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Hi, maybe I was not clear about the problem. My EPG for BBC3/4 has about 1 weeks data in it. I retrieve it from the Radio Times website. Here is an excerpt from VDRAdmin.
..... 04:20 - 04:50 The Indestructibles <---- big gap here, same each day 20:00 - 20:30 Doctor Who Confidential 20:30 - 21:15 Doctor Who .....
The problem is if I go into the VDR OSD and press schedule (when tuned to BBC1 for example), then hit the NEXT button, then I get a list of all channels that VDR has got EPG for. "Whats on next" is the screen title. Before 19:00 (UK time) this list is missing BBC3 and BBC4. So I cannot select them to look at the EPG data which is most certainly there.
I think VDR is saying "BBC3 and BBC4 do not exist, therefore don't show their EPG". Or, this channel is "CBeebies, get its EPG", which does not exist.
If I tune to BBC3 before 19:00 then press "OK", I do not get the usual two EPG entries "Whats on now" and "Whats on next". So it seems like it isn't retrieving the EPG from the epg.data file at that time either.
Cheers Brian
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 17:25 +0100, Brian wrote:
Jon Burgess wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 20:12 +0100, Brian wrote:
Tony Grant wrote:
Le lundi 05 février 2007 à 17:49 +0100, Brian a écrit :
BBC3 and BBC4 only start to show programs at 19:00 UK time. My EPG for these programs comes via the internet. If I try to look at the EPG for those channels before 19:00, then they are not even shown in the list of programs I have EPG for on the OSD. I assume this is a desired behaviour of VDR. If so, any way to change it? I didn't find anyway in the Menus.
I use the following method:
- grab the EPG from the radio times site with xmltv
- feed vdr with xmltv2vdr
- vdr updates "on the fly" EPG data for changed times
And I use vdradmin rather than the OSD so you see the timelines of 3 and 4 starting at 7. Before then you do have ceebeebies and the other kids channel onn the same frequency
Cheers
Tony
Tony,
I get the EPG into VDR the same way. And I can see it via VDRAdmin. Its just I want to see it on the OSD before 7pm if at all possible.
Cheers Brian
I use the off-air EPG and the display of BBC3/4 is OK right now (18:30). When you look at the EPG in vdradmin do you see any programs covering the period when the channel is off-air?
I see token schedule entries covering the off-air period:
05:32 - 12:00 'This is BBC THREE' 12:00 - 18:58 'This is BBC THREE' 18:58 - 19:00 'Welcome to BBC THREE' ... on-air 19:00 - 20:00 'Dog Borstal' ...
Perhaps the issue with xmltv2vdr is that there are voids in the schedule data which (might) cause the channel not to be listed in the schedule guide.
Jon
vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Hi, maybe I was not clear about the problem. My EPG for BBC3/4 has about 1 weeks data in it. I retrieve it from the Radio Times website. Here is an excerpt from VDRAdmin.
..... 04:20 - 04:50 The Indestructibles <---- big gap here, same each day 20:00 - 20:30 Doctor Who Confidential 20:30 - 21:15 Doctor Who .....
The problem is if I go into the VDR OSD and press schedule (when tuned to BBC1 for example), then hit the NEXT button, then I get a list of all channels that VDR has got EPG for. "Whats on next" is the screen title. Before 19:00 (UK time) this list is missing BBC3 and BBC4. So I cannot select them to look at the EPG data which is most certainly there.
I think VDR is saying "BBC3 and BBC4 do not exist, therefore don't show their EPG". Or, this channel is "CBeebies, get its EPG", which does not exist.
If I tune to BBC3 before 19:00 then press "OK", I do not get the usual two EPG entries "Whats on now" and "Whats on next". So it seems like it isn't retrieving the EPG from the epg.data file at that time either.
Makes sense. I was trying to highlight that this big space in the EPG is almost certainly the reason you see problems with the EPG on these channels. Maybe this is a bug in VDR but as you can see the broadcast EPG data is filled with entries even when the channels are off-air so this is why most people probably do not see this issue.
One workaround would be to adapt xmltv2epg to fill in these blanks.
Jon
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