Klaus,
I too am waiting for such a solution, I also mailed Technotrend asking if there was anything on the horizon similar to your dream. I have had no response!
In the US there are already HDTV decoder cards, in Europe we definitely need a card capable of decoding MPEG4 and DVB-S2 and outputting it all via HDMI.
At the moment I am experimenting with HDTV on my Pioneer PDP435XDE. I can receive all the test broadcasts via Astra(s) and Hotbird. I use vdr-xine on an Athlon 3000+ (2.3Ghz), 512Mb RAM, Skystar2 and a Nvidia MX440 using X11 at 720p. The picture is perfect and perfectly smooth. Unfortunately I cannot receive the DVB-S2 MPEG4 broadcast of the SKY UK HD demo at 28.2 degrees East.
However, I still revert back to my trusty Technotrend FF DVB-S with CA for normal TV viewing - it is still much better than doing things via X11, which just doesn't seem right!! it would be such a neat solution to replace this with your "dream card" so that I may once again receive everything without swapping over to view the beauty of HDTV (great for demos to family and friends though!)
Regards,
Morfsta
En/na Morfsta ha escrit:
At the moment I am experimenting with HDTV on my Pioneer PDP435XDE. I can receive all the test broadcasts via Astra(s) and Hotbird. I use vdr-xine on an Athlon 3000+ (2.3Ghz), 512Mb RAM, Skystar2 and a Nvidia MX440 using X11 at 720p. The picture is perfect and perfectly smooth. Unfortunately I cannot receive the DVB-S2 MPEG4 broadcast of the SKY UK HD demo at 28.2 degrees East.
how much cpu is used with this setup?
However, I still revert back to my trusty Technotrend FF DVB-S with CA for normal TV viewing - it is still much better than doing things via X11, which just doesn't seem right!!
well, that's due to the lack of proper drivers for fb, isn't it? and what's the problem of using x anyway? I'm not using it myself and I understand that's cumbersome, but once setup properly it should just work.
it would be such a neat solution to replace this with your "dream card" so that I may once again receive everything without swapping over to view the beauty of HDTV (great for demos to family and friends though!)
provided the "dream card" has proper drivers to work under Linux......
Bye
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 19:20, Luca Olivetti wrote:
En/na Morfsta ha escrit:
At the moment I am experimenting with HDTV on my Pioneer PDP435XDE. I can receive all the test broadcasts via Astra(s) and Hotbird. I use vdr-xine on an Athlon 3000+ (2.3Ghz), 512Mb RAM, Skystar2 and a Nvidia MX440 using X11 at 720p. The picture is perfect and perfectly smooth. Unfortunately I cannot receive the DVB-S2 MPEG4 broadcast of the SKY UK HD demo at 28.2 degrees East.
how much cpu is used with this setup?
I'am almost certain, that no matter how much cpu power you have, there will always be audio/video glitches with software decoding under certain circumstances - high i/o-load, other processes running etc. (a friend of mine has such a ultra-mega-high-end-system running XP but didn't hear and bought just a budget card - he must run the system completly unloaded to be able to watch TV, otherwise all sorts of glitches apear)
Remember - linux still hasn't realtime scheduling for multimedia purposes included, KURT was once the right way to go, IMHO, but it didn't made it.
##A dedicated hardware decoder is therefore really useful for undisturbed watching.##
Besides you can use a much less power hungry system and still have some cycles to make your box more than a media-center - mine is used as a workstation at the same time, doing email, internet, programming etc.
Le mercredi 12 octobre 2005 à 18:05 +0100, Morfsta a écrit :
In the US there are already HDTV decoder cards, in Europe we definitely need a card capable of decoding MPEG4 and DVB-S2 and outputting it all via HDMI.
For the moment we don't have programs (in a language I understand)
Unfortunately I cannot receive the DVB-S2 MPEG4 broadcast of the SKY UK HD demo at 28.2 degrees East.
Do you have coordinates for this test channel? I looked through the channel menu but stopped at 189...
Cheers Tony
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 19:36, Guido Fiala wrote:
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 19:20, Luca Olivetti wrote:
En/na Morfsta ha escrit:
At the moment I am experimenting with HDTV on my Pioneer PDP435XDE. I can receive all the test broadcasts via Astra(s) and Hotbird. I use vdr-xine on an Athlon 3000+ (2.3Ghz), 512Mb RAM, Skystar2 and a Nvidia MX440 using X11 at 720p. The picture is perfect and perfectly smooth. Unfortunately I cannot receive the DVB-S2 MPEG4 broadcast of the SKY UK HD demo at 28.2 degrees East.
how much cpu is used with this setup?
I'am almost certain, that no matter how much cpu power you have, there will always be audio/video glitches with software decoding under certain circumstances - high i/o-load, other processes running etc. (a friend of mine has such a ultra-mega-high-end-system running XP but didn't hear and bought just a budget card - he must run the system completly unloaded to be able to watch TV, otherwise all sorts of glitches apear)
Windows' scheduling is not the best....
I have an Athlon-64 3200+ here and can watch normal tv while the system is completely loaded (playing my favorite online game) without problems. Under Linux, and the tv window is 300x200 small in this case. With a budget card of course (this is my test setup).
But I agree, I would not recommend a budget-only solution for a "production" system.
--Stefan
Le jeudi 13 octobre 2005 à 07:53 +0200, Stefan Taferner a écrit :
I'am almost certain, that no matter how much cpu power you have, there will always be audio/video glitches with software decoding under certain circumstances - high i/o-load, other processes running etc. (a friend of mine has such a ultra-mega-high-end-system running XP but didn't hear and bought just a budget card - he must run the system completly unloaded to be able to watch TV, otherwise all sorts of glitches apear)
Windows' scheduling is not the best....
I have an Athlon-64 3200+ here and can watch normal tv while the system is completely loaded (playing my favorite online game) without problems. Under Linux, and the tv window is 300x200 small in this case. With a budget card of course (this is my test setup).
But I agree, I would not recommend a budget-only solution for a "production" system.
Then again you could put your budget card in a hush (or if you live in France in one of my Epia-M machines) and you can watch TV, record several others on the same transponder _AND_ have spamassassin filter your incoming mail without a dropped frame... Spamassassin without HW acceleration on the Epia will use all CPU cycles and cause dropped frames - I have tried. So yes, a budget card can be a production system, in the right MB.
[off topic]: the new iMac really needs VDR and a "watch TV" button in Front Row...
Tony
tony a écrit :
Then again you could put your budget card in a hush (or if you live in France in one of my Epia-M machines) and you can watch TV, record several others on the same transponder _AND_ have spamassassin filter your incoming mail without a dropped frame... Spamassassin without HW acceleration on the Epia will use all CPU cycles and cause dropped frames - I have tried. So yes, a budget card can be a production system, in the right MB.
One doesn't really need SpamAssassin or an online game running on the TV tuner in the living-room. VDR is really a set-to-box software, ie. a one-box = one-task solution. SpamAssassin should run on the Internet gateway, and the games are best played on a monitor + keyboard + joystick than on a remote-only computer. So yes, a budget card can be a production system right now, even without hardware acceleration, with the right software setup...
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